KUALA LUMPUR,
Nov 9 (Bernama) -- The corruption trial of Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim was
told today that under normal circumstances, cases like the allegations
of sexual misconduct against the former deputy prime Minister would be
handled by the Criminal Investigation Department (CID).
Datuk Mohamed
Said Awang, the outgoing Special Branch director who was also a former
CID director, told the High Court that looking at the police report lodged
by Anwar, normally, the CID would conduct the investigation into the report.
He said this in
reply to a question from senior deputy public prosecutor Datuk Abdul Gani
Patail during re-examination in the trial of Anwar, charged with four counts
of corrupt practice by using his position to interfere in police investigations
into the allegations.
Abdul Gani: To
whom would the CID refer the result of the investigation? Mohamed Said:
The CID would refer (the result of the investigation) to the Attorney-General's
chambers.
When he added:
"Probably we would go to Datuk Gani Patail," the court burst into laughter.
Abdul Gani: Can
you tell the court who carried out the investigation into this case?
Mohamed Said: Both
the SB and CID. Abdul Gani: Can you tell the court who took Ummi Hafilda
Ali and Azizan Abu Bakar (who made the allegations) into custody and interrogated
them?
Mohamed Said: SB
Abdul Gani: Why
did the SB take them into custody and interrogate them?
Mohamed Said: We
wanted to get the intelligence from them and because of the repeated directions
from the accused (Anwar), we have to do a turning over operation, my Lord.
Mohamed Said told
the court that apart from detaining and interrogating Ummi Hafilda and
Azizan, they also checked other sources regarding the allegations.
Abdul Gani: Did
SB record any statement from the sources?
Mohamed Said: No,
we only jotted down the information given.
At this point,
Fernando objected, saying that the prosecution was asking leading questions
and Abdul Gani rephrased his question.
Asked whether the
SB checked the sources and verified the information, Mohamed Said said
they knew the sources of the information collected but "we have no time
to verify the information".
He also agreed
that a portion of the report which he submitted to the prime minister was
written based on the information collected from these sources.
However, he refused
to reveal the identities of the other sources.
Mohamed Said also
denied that the prime minister had made a request for the report.
Earlier, he told
the court that the SB obtained the retractions from Ummi Hafilda and Azizan
as a result of a "successful turning over operation".
Another defence
counsel, Gurbachan Singh, objected when Abdul Gani asked Mohamed Said to
explain the word "sukarela" which he had used in the report to the prime
minister.
However, Justice
S. Augustine Paul overruled the objection, saying that since the report
was introduced by the defence, there was no need for the prosecution to
confine itself only to the issues raised during cross-examination.
Mohamed Said: "When
the turning over operation was completed successfully, as in this case,
and the fact that Ummi Hafilda and Azizan wrote the letters themselves,
for that, I concluded they did it "(secara) sukarela" (voluntarily).
Abdul Gani: Is
that how SB looked at it?
Mohamed Said: Yes.
Abdul Gani: In
your report to the PM, did you mention the method employed to obtain the
statements from Ummi Hafilda and Azizan?
Mohamed Said: No,
I did not mention the method employed to obtain it.
Mohamed Said also
told the court that at the time he wrote the report, the SB investigation
was not completed.
When pressed by
Abdul Ghani as to why the investigation was not completed, Mohamed Said
said that five days after he submitted the report to the prime minister,
the latter made a press statement saying that the case was closed.
At this point,
Fernando, who had objected frequently during the re-examination, said:
"This is yet another attempt by the prosecution to go outside the ambit
of the (earlier) questions and evidence, both in examination-in-chief and
cross-examination."
After the court
overruled the objection, Mohamed Said said: "We have to respect the decision
of the PM and that was the reason why I said "tidak bercadang menghalusi
kes ini" ("does not propose to scrutinise this case" in the report). In
respect of this, I also respect the statement made by PM that the accused
was going to succeed him as the PM."
He said that after
the report was prepared, there was no investigation conducted by the SB
to ascertain the truth of the allegations.
Abudl Gani: Why
did you propose to stop the investigation in your report to the PM?
Mohamed Said: Because
at that time, we already had letters (from Ummi Hafilda and Azizan) which
had to be sent to the PM. -- BERNAMA |