KUALA LUMPUR,
Nov 10 (Bernama) -- The writer of the letter, which contains allegations
of misconduct of former Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim,
sent to the Prime Minister, was convinced of the truth of its content and
it was difficult to change her stand, the High Court here was told today.
DSP Abdul Aziz
Hussin, of the Police Special Branch, said that Ummi Hafilda Ali, the writer
of the letter "Perihal Salahlaku Timbalan Perdana Menteri" (The matter
of the misconduct of the deputy prime minister), was firm and was fully
convinced of the truth of the content of the letter dated Aug 5, 1997 even
after having undergone police interrogation.
Testifying at the
trial of Anwar who faces four charges of corrupt practice under the Emergency
(Essential Powers) Ordinance No 22, 1970, he said the police felt that
the information provided by Ummi Hafilda during the interrogation was rational,
consistent and acceptable.
He said that Ummi
Hafilda was interrogated by him and his team from 11pm on Aug 17, last
year until 3am the following day.
Abdul Aziz, the
second prosecution witness, continued his testimony from yesterday.
He said that he
was directed by Special Branch Director Datuk Mohamed Said Awang to interrogate
Ummi Hafilda, the sister of Anwar's former private secretary, Mohamed Azmin
Ali, and Anwar's former driver, Azizan Abu Bakar.
Mohamed Said, the
first prosecution witness, instructed him to "neutralise" Ummi Hafilda
and Azizan pertaining to the letter written by Ummi Hafilda within 24 hours,
he said.
Abdul Aziz, whose
duties at the Special Branch are to conduct interrogations, said that the
instructions by Mohamed Said meant that he needed to "turn over" or change
the stand of those interrogated.
Yesterday, the
court was told that the letter also contained allegations that Anwar had
a homosexual relations with Azizan and an affair with Mohamed Azmin's wife,
Shamsidar Taharin.
Abdul Aziz said
that he was to gather as much information as possible pertaining to the
letter written by Ummi and the sworn statement made by Azizan.
"When receiving
the order, I knew that I was required to change Ummi Hafilda's and Azizan's
stand so that they will retract all allegations of sexual misconduct of
the deputy prime minister as contained in the letter," he said.
He said that Special
Branch Deputy Director 11 Datuk Amir Junus and ACP Mazlan Mohamed Din were
also in the room when Mohamed Said gave the instructions.
As soon as the
instructions were given, he said, he proceeded with the process at the
lounge of the Special Branch Deputy Director 1's office, assisted by three
other officers including a woman constable.
Abdul Aziz said
that after four hours of interrogation, he informed Mohamed Said they were
facing difficulty in changing Ummi Hafilda's stand as she continued to
maintain her original stand.
He also told Mohamed
Said that from their assessment, the information given by Ummi Hafilda
was rational, consistent and accepteble.
He said Mohamed
Said however requested him to continue with the process and he carried
out the instructions.
"After trying until
7am on Aug 18, 1997, Ummi Hafilda finally retracted all her earlier allegations.
She was interogated non-stop," he said.
Abdul Aziz said
that they had succeeded through psychologial approach by putting fear in
her including threatening to initiate action like detention under the Internal
Security Act (ISA) and the Sedition Act.
"Fear was also
instilled into Umi Hafilda of the possibility of retaliation from the person
on whom allegations were made, who happened to be the Finance Minister
and the Deputy Prime Minister," he said.
He said that other
approaches used were continuous interrogation to create an atmosphere as
if physical torture would occur and coaxing, to confuse her.
Abdul Aziz said
that he informed Mohamed Said of their success three hours later and he
later instructed him to hand over Ummi Hafilda to ASP Zulkifli Mohamed
of the Criminal Investigation Department.
He said that Mohamed
Said summoned him back at 5pm the same day and instructed him to make Ummi
Hafilda write a letter denying allegations contained in the letter.
Earlier, he said
that an intelligence statement had been taken from Ummi Hafilda for scrutiny
but it was not done according to the Criminal Procedure Code.
Abdul Aziz said
that after receiving Mohamed Said's instructions, he met Ummi Hafilda again
but she informed him that she was not prepared to put down her changed
stand in writing as it was very difficult to change her stand just within
24 hours.
"I continued to
persuade and advise her and finally she agreed to write the letter of apology,"
he said. They then discussed the format of the letter to be sent to the
Prime Minister.
Abdul Aziz said
that he handed over the letter written by Ummi Hafilda to Mohamed Said
at 6pm the same day but he was not satisfied with the letter, saying it
was "too flat and non-committal".
He said that Mohamed
Said then directed that another letter be written by Ummi Haflida but she
should be more firm.
Abdul Aziz said
that he managed to get the second letter from Ummi Hafilda and the first
letter was destroyed.
"The gist of Ummi
Hafilda's letter was, among others, all her allegations were based on unsubstantiated
facts and she admitted her mistake for making the allegations that could
result in libel and as such apologised for her transgression," he said.
Abdul Aziz said
that in his meeting with Amir at 8.30am on Aug 28, 1997, he was informed
that Anwar who was then the Deputy Prime Minister was not satisfied with
the letter, dated Aug 18, 1997.
This evidence was
objected to by defence counsel Gurbachan Singh but it was overruled.
Abdul Aziz said
that Amir instructed him to get back to Ummi Hafilda to obtain a general
statement which was even more firm and committed, denying all earlier allegations.
He said that at
a meeting at a hotel room here on Aug 29, 1997, he and his interrogation
team succeeded to obtain a new letter of denial from Ummi Hafilda after
she was coaxed and advised for two hours.
The letter was
handed over to Mohamed Said and Amir, who still felt that the tone of the
letter was still not firm enough, made several changes and instructed a
new letter be typed, he said.
Abdul Aziz said
that the letter was then given to Ummi Hafilda who was still in the hotel
room to sign.
He said that she
was very dissatisfied, saying it was not her original letter but after
some persuasion, she signed the letter, after correcting the spelling of
her name.
After she had put
down her signature, he asked Ummi Hafilda to copy the content of the letter
in her own handwriting, he said.
Since it was a
general statement, he said, he and Mazlan who was with him then, asked
Ummi Hafilda to prepare an attached letter addressed to Anwar and when
ready, the letter was taken to Bukit Aman for Mohamed Said's action.
Senior Deputy Public
Prosecutor Azahar Mohamed, who conducted the prosecution at today's proceedings,
then closed the prosecution's case.
Abdul Aziz will
be cross-examined by Anwar's defence counsel in the afternoon.-- BERNAMA |